Stairway to Gray: How to Find Them (& Is It Right for You?)
Looking for Stairway to Gray (STG)? You're in the right place. Here's everything you need to know about this peptide community, how to join, and whether it's the right fit for your experience level.
🔗 Quick Answer: How to Join Stairway to Gray
Primary Telegram: Join STG - NO OILS
Official Website: stairwaytogray.com
Backup/Alternative Links:
STG has 35,884+ members - one of the largest peptide communities on Telegram.
📋 What is Stairway to Gray?
Stairway to Gray (STG) is a large Telegram community focused on DIY peptide research for experienced users. Their full name "STG - NO OILS" reflects their philosophy: they focus exclusively on raw peptide powders and self-reconstitution.
Community Focus
STG is known for:
- DIY Peptide Reconstitution - No ready-to-use products ("no oils")
- Advanced Protocols - Dosing strategies, stacking, cycling
- Vendor Vetting - Community-driven vendor reviews and testing
- Research Discussion - Analysis of studies, mechanisms of action
- Self-Sufficiency - Members are expected to do their own research
Community Size & Activity
With 35,884+ members, STG is one of the most active peptide communities on Telegram. The group maintains high standards for discussion quality and expects members to have baseline knowledge before joining.
⚠️ Important: Is STG Right for You?
Before you join Stairway to Gray, ask yourself these questions:
✅ You're Ready for STG If You:
- ✅ Have successfully reconstituted peptides before
- ✅ Understand dosage calculations (mg to mL conversions)
- ✅ Know how to use bacteriostatic water and proper sterile technique
- ✅ Can vet vendors independently (check testing, reviews, shipping)
- ✅ Are comfortable reading research papers and discussing mechanisms
- ✅ Want to DIY with raw powder (not interested in ready-to-use)
- ✅ Have experience with injection techniques and subcutaneous administration
- ✅ Understand the legal gray market and can navigate it safely
❌ You're NOT Ready for STG If You:
- ❌ Have never used peptides before
- ❌ Don't know how to reconstitute lyophilized powder
- ❌ Need step-by-step guidance on basic procedures
- ❌ Are looking for ready-to-use products (pre-mixed vials)
- ❌ Need help understanding vendor terminology
- ❌ Want a slower-paced, beginner-friendly community
- ❌ Prefer detailed guides over independent research
- ❌ Are just starting your research into GLP-1 medications
🆚 STG vs Gray Guide: Which Community is Right for You?
Both communities serve the peptide research space, but with very different approaches.
Quick Comparison
| Factor | Stairway to Gray (STG) | Gray Guide (Peptide Research Group) |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Advanced | Beginner-Friendly |
| Community Size | 35,884+ members | 623 members (more intimate) |
| Product Focus | DIY powder only ("NO OILS") | All options (powder, vials, pens) |
| Discussion Style | Fast-paced, assumes knowledge | Step-by-step, explained simply |
| Learning Curve | Steep | Gentle |
| Prerequisites | 6+ months peptide experience | No experience needed |
| Best For | Advanced users, DIY enthusiasts | First-time users, beginners |
| Support Level | Self-directed research | Guided learning, active help |
| Topic Examples | Advanced stacking protocols | "How do I reconstitute?" "Where do I inject?" |
Philosophy Differences
Stairway to Gray:
- "Figure it out yourself" culture
- Emphasis on independence and self-research
- Community expects you to arrive with baseline knowledge
- Focus on optimization and advanced techniques
Gray Guide:
- "We'll help you learn" culture
- Emphasis on safety and step-by-step guidance
- Community welcomes complete beginners
- Focus on fundamentals and getting started safely
🎓 Not Sure Which Community to Join? Take This Quiz
Answer honestly:
Question 1: Reconstitution Experience
Have you successfully reconstituted lyophilized peptide powder before?
- Yes, multiple times → Likely ready for STG
- Once or twice, with help → Start with Gray Guide
- No, never → Definitely start with Gray Guide
Question 2: Dosage Calculations
Can you calculate: If you have 10mg of peptide and add 2mL of BAC water, how many mg are in 0.1mL?
- Yes, easily (0.5mg) → Likely ready for STG
- I think so... maybe? → Start with Gray Guide
- No idea → Definitely start with Gray Guide
Question 3: Vendor Vetting
How do you verify if a peptide vendor is legitimate?
- Check COA, independent testing, community reviews, website security → Likely ready for STG
- Read some reviews? → Start with Gray Guide
- I don't know → Definitely start with Gray Guide
Question 4: Injection Technique
How many times have you self-administered subcutaneous injections?
- 20+ times, comfortable → Likely ready for STG
- 1-10 times, still learning → Start with Gray Guide
- Never → Definitely start with Gray Guide
Question 5: Research Comfort
If someone discusses "GLP-1 receptor agonism and gastric emptying delay," do you:
- Understand and can discuss → Likely ready for STG
- Kind of get it → Start with Gray Guide
- Have no idea → Definitely start with Gray Guide
🎯 Our Recommendation: The Learning Path
We believe the best approach is to:
Phase 1: Start with Gray Guide (2-6 months)
Master the fundamentals:
- Learn safe injection technique
- Understand dosage calculations
- Practice reconstitution (with guidance)
- Vet your first vendors (with community help)
- Ask "beginner questions" without judgment
- Build confidence through hands-on practice
Join Gray Guide: Peptide Research Group Telegram
Phase 2: Graduate to STG (when ready)
Once you've:
- ✅ Successfully completed 3+ peptide cycles
- ✅ Reconstituted 10+ vials independently
- ✅ Can calculate doses without help
- ✅ Understand sterile technique
- ✅ Feel confident in your knowledge
Then join: Stairway to Gray Telegram
Why This Path Works
- Build confidence with beginner-friendly support
- Avoid mistakes that advanced users assume you know
- Learn fundamentals before tackling advanced topics
- Get help when you need it (no judgment)
- Graduate to STG when you're truly ready
🔍 STG Community Structure & Topics
Based on the STG community, here's what you can expect:
Common Discussion Topics
- DIY Powder Reconstitution - "NO OILS" philosophy
- Vendor Reviews & Testing - Community vetting of sources
- Advanced Dosing Protocols - Optimization strategies
- Research Paper Analysis - Mechanism discussions
- Peptide Stacking - Combining multiple compounds
- Long-term Planning - Cycling, breaks, maintenance
Community Rules & Culture
- Self-Research Expected - Do your homework first
- Fast-Paced Discussions - High volume of messages
- No Spoon-Feeding - Generic questions may go unanswered
- DIY Focus - Ready-to-use products discouraged
- Evidence-Based - Cite sources, share data
🚀 Ready to Get Started?
Choose Your Path:
Path A: Join Stairway to Gray (Experienced Users)
If you answered "Yes" to most quiz questions:
Join STG: Primary Link | Backup Links
Visit: stairwaytogray.com
Path B: Start with Gray Guide (Beginners)
If you need more foundational knowledge first:
Join Gray Guide: Peptide Research Group
Visit: gray.guide for step-by-step guides
Description: "GLP-1 information made simple. Research notes, practical guides, and community tips on affordability and safety."
Gray Guide Topics Include:
- ✅ Verified Sellers (pre-vetted vendors)
- ✅ How to reconstitute (step-by-step)
- ✅ Where do I inject? (illustrated guides)
- ✅ Dosage calculators (tools & help)
- ✅ Order tracking help
- ✅ Product reviews (member experiences)
- ✅ Tips and tricks (beginner-focused)
- ✅ Seller reviews (which to trust)
❓ Frequently Asked Questions
Is Stairway to Gray affiliated with Gray Guide?
No, we are separate communities with different focuses. STG is for advanced users; Gray Guide is for beginners. We respect their work and send advanced users their way.
Can I join both communities?
Absolutely! Many members start with Gray Guide, learn the basics, then join STG for advanced discussions. Some stay in both.
Why does STG have so many Telegram links?
Large Telegram groups often create backup links in case of disruptions, moderation changes, or to manage member influx across multiple channels.
What does "NO OILS" mean?
STG focuses on DIY reconstitution from raw peptide powder. "Oils" refers to ready-to-use, pre-mixed products that some vendors sell. STG members prefer the control and cost-efficiency of DIY.
Is STG's website indexed by Google?
No, STG has intentionally blocked their website from search engines. This is why we created this guide - to help people find them through search.
How long until I'm "ready" for STG?
Most people need 3-6 months of hands-on experience with peptides before STG's discussions make sense. If you're successfully managing your own cycles without help, you're probably ready.
What if I join STG and feel overwhelmed?
That's normal! Drop back to Gray Guide, master the fundamentals, then return when you're comfortable. There's no rush.
🌐 Other Peptide Communities
Looking for more options? Here are other communities in the peptide research space:
Reddit Communities
- r/Peptides - General peptide discussion
- r/PEDs - Performance-enhancing discussions
- r/Semaglutide - GLP-1 specific
Discord Servers
- Various peptide research servers (ask in communities for invites)
Beginner-Friendly
- Gray Guide / Peptide Research Group - Our beginner community (Join)
Advanced
- Stairway to Gray - Advanced DIY community (Join)
📚 Related Resources
On Gray Guide:
- Getting Started Guide - Choose your path
- Sourcing Details - Find verified vendors
- Path C: DIY Powder - Learn reconstitution
- Retatrutide Guide - Peptide information
- Safety Guide - Stay safe
Before Joining STG:
- Master reconstitution technique
- Complete at least 3 successful peptide cycles
- Understand dosage calculations
- Learn sterile technique
- Research vendor vetting
💬 Still Have Questions?
Need beginner help? Join our community:
- Telegram: Peptide Research Group
- Website: gray.guide
Ready for advanced discussion? Join Stairway to Gray:
- Telegram: STG - NO OILS
- Website: stairwaytogray.com
🔄 Last Updated
November 11, 2025 - Links verified, community info current
If any STG links are broken or community info has changed, please let us know in our Telegram so we can update this guide.
Bottom Line: Stairway to Gray is an excellent community for experienced peptide users who want DIY powder-focused, advanced discussions. If you're new to peptides, start with Gray Guide first, master the fundamentals, then graduate to STG when you're ready. Both communities serve important roles in the peptide research ecosystem.